“The young lady received us with much kindness and condescension, while, as I glanced my eye upon her fine countenance, beaming with intelligence, mingling pity and contempt grew in my bosom. After the first ceremonies, we sat for some time silent; at length I drew up a heavy sigh, and uttered a pathetic sentiment, relative to the deplorable condition of those who live and die in unbelief; and I concluded a violent declamation, by pronouncing with great earnestness, He that believeth not shall be damned.
“‘And pray, sir,’ said the young lady, with great sweetness, ‘Pray, sir, what is the unbeliever damned for not believing?’
“What is he damned for not believing? Why, he is damned for not believing.
“‘But, my dear sir,’ she asked, ‘what was that, which he did not believe, for which he was damned?’
“Why, for not believing in Jesus Christ, to be sure.
“‘Do you mean to say that unbelievers are damned for not believing there was such a person as Jesus Christ?’
“No, I do not; a man may believe there was such a person, and yet be damned.
“‘What then, sir, must he believe, in order to avoid damnation?’
Why, he must believe that Jesus Christ is a complete Saviour.
“‘Well, suppose he were to believe, that Jesus Christ was the complete Saviour of others, would this belief save him?’
“No, he must believe that Jesus Christ is his complete Saviour; every individual must believe for himself that Jesus Christ is his complete Saviour.
“‘Why, sir, is Jesus Christ the Saviour of any unbelievers?’
“‘Why, then, should any unbeliever believe, that Jesus Christ is his Saviour, if he is not his Saviour?’
“I say he is not the Saviour of any one, until he believes.
“‘Then, if Jesus be not the Saviour of the unbeliever, until he believes, the unbeliever is called upon to believe a lie. It appears to me, sir, that Jesus is the complete Saviour of unbelievers; and that unbelievers are called upon to believe the truth; and that, by believing they are saved in their own apprehension, saved from all those dreadful fears which are consequent upon a state of conscious condemnation.’
“No, madam; you are dreadfully, I trust not fatally, misled. Jesus never was, not never will be, the Saviour of any unbeliever.
“‘Do you think Jesus is your Saviour, sir?’
“I hope he is.
“‘Were you always a believer sir?’
“‘Then you were once an unbeliever; that is, you once believed that Jesus Christ was not your Saviour. Now, as you say, he never was, nor never will be, the Saviour of any unbeliever; as you were once an unbeliever, he never can be your Saviour.’
“He never was my Saviour till I believed.
“‘Did he never die for you, till you believed, sir?’
“Here I was extremely embarrassed, and most devoutly wished myself out of her habitation; I sighed bitterly, expressed deep commiseration for those souls who had nothing but head-knowledge; drew out my watch, discovered it was late; and, recollecting an engagement, observed it was time to take leave.”
–John Murray, Records of the Life of the Rev. John Murray, Late Minister of the Reconciliation and Senior Pastor of the Universalists, Congregated in Boston. Boston: Munroe and Francis, 1816.